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		<title>By: Stop, Drop and Roll &#187; A tree grows on Fernside</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop, Drop and Roll &#187; A tree grows on Fernside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yesterday, I did my best to pass along information i gathered from Public Works on the current and past projects that have/are taking place on Fernside Blvd. Poster Jill wrote in to say [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday, I did my best to pass along information i gathered from Public Works on the current and past projects that have/are taking place on Fernside Blvd. Poster Jill wrote in to say [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I frequently walk through the construction area and unless I am hallucinating, they are indeed digging up some of the landscaping near San Jose Ave. that they just put in with the last upgrade.

That said, I am looking forward to having the upgrade complete.  Bikes going both directions (including some pretty fast cyclists due to the downslope) have to use the same sidewalk as pedestrians going in both directions.  If you have ever been caught there within half an hour of school letting out, or on a weekend when an organized bike group goes by, you&#039;ll know what I&#039;m taking about.  It&#039;s insane, even though the cyclists and pedestrians are generally pretty considerate (aside from one jerk on a recumbent bike, but I won&#039;t go there...)

Regarding the flashing lights in crosswalks, I think they do help pedestrians somewhat, but they are hard to see when it&#039;s very sunny out.  I just hope that pedestrians continue to make eye contact with drivers to make sure they&#039;re stopping, even when the lights are flashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I frequently walk through the construction area and unless I am hallucinating, they are indeed digging up some of the landscaping near San Jose Ave. that they just put in with the last upgrade.</p>
<p>That said, I am looking forward to having the upgrade complete.  Bikes going both directions (including some pretty fast cyclists due to the downslope) have to use the same sidewalk as pedestrians going in both directions.  If you have ever been caught there within half an hour of school letting out, or on a weekend when an organized bike group goes by, you&#8217;ll know what I&#8217;m taking about.  It&#8217;s insane, even though the cyclists and pedestrians are generally pretty considerate (aside from one jerk on a recumbent bike, but I won&#8217;t go there&#8230;)</p>
<p>Regarding the flashing lights in crosswalks, I think they do help pedestrians somewhat, but they are hard to see when it&#8217;s very sunny out.  I just hope that pedestrians continue to make eye contact with drivers to make sure they&#8217;re stopping, even when the lights are flashing.</p>
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		<title>By: John Knox White</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>John Knox White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no photos of the project. you&#039;d have to look at the city&#039;s website for info like that, I doubt you&#039;ll find it. Public Works would be the place to check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no photos of the project. you&#8217;d have to look at the city&#8217;s website for info like that, I doubt you&#8217;ll find it. Public Works would be the place to check.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that&#039;s what I&#039;m referring to—staff basically saying &quot;we should do everything we can get a grant for&quot;. As I&#039;ve written to you before, considered need, not just any available grant, should be driving our improvement projects. Or we end up with lots of haphazard busywork that solves little if anything.

I am skeptical of &quot;experts&quot; because I&#039;ve seen them do things that are staggeringly &quot;unwise&quot;, to keep from using a different word. A constant example is the trimming of trees. I see those tree &quot;experts&quot; cut main, healthy branches that so weaken and disfigure the tree there&#039;s nothing left but to remove it on the next pass. I have pictures! Experts came up with a stop sign &quot;solution&quot; in my neighborhood that is practically a hazard. Half the teeth in my mouth have been ruined by dental experts. There&#039;s nothing I dread more than an &quot;expert,&quot; especially a busy one with access to a pot of money. A real expert can discern between &quot;I can do this&quot; and I &quot;should do this&quot; Do you know anyone?

I still would like to see a picture of the little islands proposed for Fernside, if you have one. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m referring to—staff basically saying &#8220;we should do everything we can get a grant for&#8221;. As I&#8217;ve written to you before, considered need, not just any available grant, should be driving our improvement projects. Or we end up with lots of haphazard busywork that solves little if anything.</p>
<p>I am skeptical of &#8220;experts&#8221; because I&#8217;ve seen them do things that are staggeringly &#8220;unwise&#8221;, to keep from using a different word. A constant example is the trimming of trees. I see those tree &#8220;experts&#8221; cut main, healthy branches that so weaken and disfigure the tree there&#8217;s nothing left but to remove it on the next pass. I have pictures! Experts came up with a stop sign &#8220;solution&#8221; in my neighborhood that is practically a hazard. Half the teeth in my mouth have been ruined by dental experts. There&#8217;s nothing I dread more than an &#8220;expert,&#8221; especially a busy one with access to a pot of money. A real expert can discern between &#8220;I can do this&#8221; and I &#8220;should do this&#8221; Do you know anyone?</p>
<p>I still would like to see a picture of the little islands proposed for Fernside, if you have one. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Knox White</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>John Knox White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So engineering is just so much hooey? Interesting.

BTW: You can keep saying &quot;free money&quot; all you want, but be clear it&#039;s not a quote from me unless I was being sarcastic about the fact that past responses to my questioning about the cost-effectiveness of flashing light have been met with &quot;don&#039;t worry we got a grant.&quot;

Also, the study that you report I mentioned didn&#039;t say there were no benefits but that they were small and that city&#039;s should weigh the benefits with the costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So engineering is just so much hooey? Interesting.</p>
<p>BTW: You can keep saying &#8220;free money&#8221; all you want, but be clear it&#8217;s not a quote from me unless I was being sarcastic about the fact that past responses to my questioning about the cost-effectiveness of flashing light have been met with &#8220;don&#8217;t worry we got a grant.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, the study that you report I mentioned didn&#8217;t say there were no benefits but that they were small and that city&#8217;s should weigh the benefits with the costs.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the little island of sanity? What will they look like? Can we see a picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the little island of sanity? What will they look like? Can we see a picture?</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the trained experts! As long as we can get free money to undo it should it not work out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the trained experts! As long as we can get free money to undo it should it not work out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Knox White</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>John Knox White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the merge lane, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any movement that can happen, their constructing as we type.

As to the length of the merge, I know that city engineers designed the project to meet all standards, so while I don&#039;t have a personal opinion on the engineering, I trust that it&#039;s safe. Looking at the maps, it looks to me like there&#039;s a lot of room before the merge, but like I said, I&#039;m not an engineer, so I trust the trained ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the merge lane, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any movement that can happen, their constructing as we type.</p>
<p>As to the length of the merge, I know that city engineers designed the project to meet all standards, so while I don&#8217;t have a personal opinion on the engineering, I trust that it&#8217;s safe. Looking at the maps, it looks to me like there&#8217;s a lot of room before the merge, but like I said, I&#8217;m not an engineer, so I trust the trained ones.</p>
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		<title>By: AD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drivers need all the help they can get to see YOU, the pedestrian. When they have a gazillion other distractions (light, stripes, paddles, beeps, bumps and whatnot) competing for their attention, they are less likely to notice the actual pedestrian. Eye contact is still the best guarantee they&#039;ve seen you, and you can&#039;t have a good one when you&#039;re busy watching other things. Basic physiology. Look up &quot;naked streets&quot; online for other concepts based on common sense.

JKW himself said a study shows no noticeably improved safety because of flashing crosswalks. The only reason they were installed in Alameda is because staff has found &quot;free&quot; money to do it. Poor souls, they never heard that money doesn&#039;t grow on trees.

John, what about that merging situation on Fernside? Can the merge be moved further north? Whenever you get a chance...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drivers need all the help they can get to see YOU, the pedestrian. When they have a gazillion other distractions (light, stripes, paddles, beeps, bumps and whatnot) competing for their attention, they are less likely to notice the actual pedestrian. Eye contact is still the best guarantee they&#8217;ve seen you, and you can&#8217;t have a good one when you&#8217;re busy watching other things. Basic physiology. Look up &#8220;naked streets&#8221; online for other concepts based on common sense.</p>
<p>JKW himself said a study shows no noticeably improved safety because of flashing crosswalks. The only reason they were installed in Alameda is because staff has found &#8220;free&#8221; money to do it. Poor souls, they never heard that money doesn&#8217;t grow on trees.</p>
<p>John, what about that merging situation on Fernside? Can the merge be moved further north? Whenever you get a chance&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Greene</title>
		<link>http://www.johnknoxwhite.com/2008/07/23/where-the-red-grows-in-fernside/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my ignorance, but what is wrong with flashing lights to help pedestrians get across a street? We need all the help we can get, and I&#039;ve seen them make a real difference on Park Street, especially at Webb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon my ignorance, but what is wrong with flashing lights to help pedestrians get across a street? We need all the help we can get, and I&#8217;ve seen them make a real difference on Park Street, especially at Webb.</p>
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