Earlier this week, the Sierra Club announced that they were signing onto the Alameda Point Vision (not the SunCal initiative) which was a grassroots effort to develop a consensus vision for the direction of Alameda Point which began before SunCal was even in the picture.
Here’s what I wrote about a year ago when the vision was released:
Starting last October, the Alameda Point Vision (APV) started collecting feedback from Alameda residents on what they would like to see built at Alameda Point. Clearly the process for redesigning and redeveloping Alameda Point is a long one, it’s already been 10 years and we still don’t have a plan! The Alameda Point Vision used two surveys to ask people both what is important to them in considering development at Alameda Point and then what types of buildings and land-uses are acceptable based on their vision. Toggether, the surveys collected over 450 responses which have been collected and posted at the Alameda Point Vision website.
Have a great weekend.
Since I am new to all of this, could you tell me who is involved with Alameda Point Vision. Thank You.
Why, it’s JKW’s baby, isn’t it?
Jane’s about 1/300th correct, I was certainly one of the people involved in putting together community surveys and collecting input for the overall vision. Over 300 people gave input, all of it is available on the website, along with the names of those involved and becoming involved.
It’s been a busy week JEA, apologies for the delayed response, you can find the list at http://www.alamedapointvision.org.
JKW was certainly one of the people involved in putting together community surveys and collecting input for the overall vision”
No wonder so many are so very biased, slanted, and worthless!
Hey JK – Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
“Do you want to see more than one kind of home?” does not mean people want 5 story residential over retail, or even non- MA compliant; But Hey if JK is putting surveys together and interpreting them – It can mean anything, …in theory… Any attempt at dialogue with he and “Mad Mike Kruger” is proof of that.
That list of organizers includes most of the board of HOMES as well as several other parties who have publicly adocated against Measure A. While JKW is technically correct — 300 Alamedans were involved — the survey cannot be considered remotely neutral, conclusive or probative of community-wide opinion.
Here’s my vision for Alameda Point, which I don’t see listed here: That it have absolutely no negative impact on the rest of Alameda.
The survey was very obviously biased because, for starters, it was worded as if the rest of Alameda barely existed. Frankly, I don’t think most people here are that concerned about creating la-la land on the old base, apart from getting a few public amenities out of it.
I tried to take the survey and gave up maybe half way thru because of questions such as “Would you rather walk to work or spend an hour sitting in traffic?” (accurately paraphrased). It should have been worded: “Would you support a large housing development at Alameda Point even if it made your commute twice as long?” That might get us closer to the truth.
Vision, my foot. Lets just make clear that no vision of any sort—real or made up—is on the ballot. What’s on the ballot is a plan to strip a couple hundred acres of land in the middle of the Bay Area of all zoning restrictions so it can be resold for the highest possible price to the next highest bidder.
Would the visionaries please line up here for the free lemonade…
DL, please point to the question in the Alameda Point Vision survey which suggested your paraphrased question about walking vs sitting in traffic.
Also, one of the first questions off the bat from the Alameda Point survey was, “Alameda Point should include accessible parks that can be
enjoyed by all city residents” [emphasis added]
Development anywhere whether it be in Alameda or Oakland or Livermore is going to have an impact on Alameda. Unless you are advocating for a complete halt on development everywhere, there will always be some impact on Alameda
I would try to get the exact wording of the question I mentioned (and others), but I can’t seem to get access to the original survey, so I’m relying on memory. Is there a way to get the survey?
I should add: the original survey that I recall, online, had a whole series of questions, well beyond those appearing in the link to the survey results posted above.
There were only two surveys, one was the overall vision the other was the Visual Preference survey.
For both the results and initial questions are captured in the PDFs, no question that was asked was omitted from the final PDF.
The overall vision survey does not have as many questions as I recall from the original online survey. I would have to see the original survey, and evidently that’s not available.
DL: As I mentioned previously, the PDF captured all the questions that were asked in the survey without changing the language or omitting any questions.
Perhaps you were thinking of a different survey by a different group?
I’m thinking of the survey which was online last year — is that a different survey? How many surveys were there? Again, I would need to see the original survey in its original form to confirm the contents.
As it is tho, I definitely remember a question re walking to work vs. getting stuck in traffic. It remains in memory, as in my memory.
Shortly after the Alameda Point Vision released its survey, there was another “group”: Alameda Point Jobs (I talked about it here) that had a survey too. The website is no longer up, but I would imagine that it was that survey, not the Alameda Point Vision one, that had the question about walking to work or being stuck in traffic.
I’m sure you could ask Action Alameda/Save Our City Alameda/Protect the Point/Keep Measure A/Coalition for a Better Alameda for that survey.
Well, Naa-Naa-Naa to you too.